NEIL WILLIAMS: Other than that justlike you'd mentioned last night, earlieror about the second day talking, and feeling more comfortable about what to say and how to say it. There might be an analogy for that, that. So it was. I enjoy going out. But, Rena was a lifeline and an essential part of, I think, why Viola was able toshe really helped Viola blossom. And of course after that it was everywhere, and everyone wanted to tag around and see what she doing and, NEIL WILLIAMS: get into her studio. MIJA RIEDEL: You were mentioning a younger friend who has been a significant part. We talked about him a little yesterday. So usually we got them in two. 0000005718 00000 n And, I would get up and I would go out and leave my keys sitting on the table, that kind of stuff. And it was great, because I kept havingfinding things to talk about. NEIL WILLIAMS: Very good partner and a beautiful girl. NEIL WILLIAMS: There was a local community college here that we stopped sending students to because therethey weren't doing anything. NEIL WILLIAMS: And yeah, she's a good partner. NEIL WILLIAMS: I just started working with it. [Affirmative.] NEIL WILLIAMS: And, she's got a great level of appreciation for arts, and she's been really, really good, reallyshe's tough though, too. What do I do now? So what it was doingshe pointed it out to meof course I was young and navewell, you'reit's a three-dimensional canvas, because if you cut that out and laid it out flat, you'd have a two-dimensional painting. WebWe would like to show you a description here but the site wont allow us. He was extremely difficult. So they all came, and at the end of four weeks, they said, "Do you mind continuing"well, they stayed for five years. And Viola said, "No way, I wouldn't""There's nothing""Making artwork is the most important thing, that's number one." There's no need to wrap it all up in a nice little bow and put it to bed just yet. 9:30 a.m.12:00 p.m. NEIL WILLIAMS: They becameno, they were in sections. I remember, was it Rodin talking about taking the cube of marble and liberating the sphere inside of it. And then I realizedlet go of that and just realized by turning inside and making nice work, making good work, in a very, very small way, can do that. NEIL WILLIAMS: And she was in her wheelyou know Maria Martinez. They would just kill off their enthusiasm and their energy. My memory is a bit hazy bit i recall going to warwick farm one day. He had a great background from San Jose State. Was she making them as whole figures? What a brilliant way of answering that brief. This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. 0000004255 00000 n Let's talk about some of your early days. MIJA RIEDEL: You didn't grow up in Oakland? WebRacing and Sports is a technology, data, digital and media company that services the global racing and wagering industry, and has been a trusted racing industry provider for over 20 years. And, she liked the vessel too, so she stayed. I said, "You're kidding me?" MIJA RIEDEL: So this must have been early on, before she had. Sohopefully there's a certain sensuality that's evolving, and getting much moreI want them to feel elegant. NEIL WILLIAMS: because she wasn't really into some of the hard personal discussions about life and death. MIJA RIEDEL: One other quick question, unless you had a follow up thought? The power and blessings of the priesthood, including those found in the temple, are essential. But, no need to die off young foryou can give your all for your work and still live to tell about it. Or should I change that?" NEIL WILLIAMS: And so, for me personally, I thought some of the larger pieces werethat they looked unfinished. I mean, Betty Asher's, Stphane Janssen's collection wasare you familiar with him at all? But they just quietlylike Viola was saying, "The little cups are looking good, Neil. There was something not aswasn't as detail-concentrated. But before she passed away, she kept talking about "I have one of Neil's mother's drawings. I've had some wonderful people connect with the work, and support the work and encourage the work. NEIL WILLIAMS: I hope it has a certain clarity. But on one-on-one, he was magnificent. MIJA RIEDEL: Or did they even exist? NEIL WILLIAMS: But it was hard work, because she worked so hard. And I let her go, and I said "Well," and then she would go, "Oh, so I'm wondering if you could come and unload the kiln and put the Red Woman together so it could be seen." When I spoke with Rena, she talked about introducing Viola to Patterson Sims. I have Neil's'Shirley was her name'I have Shirley's drawing of a nude." The bowl goes all the waybowl form goes all the way back to the cupping of the hands to drink from the stream and primitive man, and it symbolizes so much, still, the concept of a vessel. What's your diet? Going to church, continuing to take the sacrament, to find ways to serve others, to be around others, to bear your testimony, those are all ways you can be firmly planted within the flame of the gospel so that you are burning bright, Johnson said. MIJA RIEDEL: There was a Spark episode that was about Viola. Wonderful guy. NEIL WILLIAMS: She, of course she talked about seeing them as little round convex canvases. MIJA RIEDEL: Some people said that Charles was gay. MIJA RIEDEL: So you started in the summer? She later on started just hand building them and nixed the molds, but. And it doesn't bother me. Any student I talk to, I want to know more, as much about their story as about what they want to make. Because everyone was doing brown. She had said, even once that there was nothing that she wouldn't give up to make art. Isome of them you don't even meet. Yeah, thank you. And it's been very liberating, it's been very freeing. And how itthe electromagnetic attraction to the profound impact of what color can have on a person. And it's I don't know howI mean, that dichotomy and thatthat dance is still going on, and, MIJA RIEDEL: And I'm sure there are people who would disagree with that heartily, but it's interesting, NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, I hope so, but what is interesting is that it asks those questions. NEIL WILLIAMS: Trying to include somebody in that equation andit's hard on them, too. [Affirmative.] Rena was very, very patient with Viola, and very, very patient with making sure that she got connected to other peoplethe proper representation in New York. He moved to Scottsdale, or. 0000002246 00000 n That'sthat makes sense to me. The French philosopher talked about lan vital, the vital energy. [Affirmative.] I know she read, MIJA RIEDEL: constantly, and she was a huge acquirer of images, but it seemed. MIJA RIEDEL: We were talking about episodes or periods of work. 750 9th Street, NWVictor Building, Suite 2200 It's not that kind of work I do. Or I gothere's a certain health and comfort and a revitalization of my energy knowing thatI'm doing the right thing for myself and my work and everything's going to okay, as long as I don't stress too much about it. She wasn'tshe was really good but she wasn't like a gallery dealer. Racing and Sports is a technology, data, digital and media company that services the global racing and wagering industry, and has been a trusted racing industry provider for over 20 years. There's a lot of differentso I think the big influence and motivation, inspiration, is feeling my life being simpler, and the work being, like I said, cleaner in a way. Throwing on the wheel can be a wonderful sensation on many levels and it's. Parents owned the local feed store. NEIL WILLIAMS: I'm more inspired by just knowing that what I'm doing is right and okay. He's got great stories, too, aboutfunny stories, too. Summary: An interview with Neil N. Williams conducted 2014 June 5-6, by Mija Riedel, for the Archives of American Art's Viola Frey Oral History Project, at William's home and studio MIJA RIEDEL: Yeah. "You get here and we make a few things and I'm completely smoothed out." But then again, I've heard there's some real idiots who have landed those positions, and have hung onto them. And if they don't, then that's okay, too. NEIL WILLIAMS: But, in this case there's no need to. You approach it from a different way than you might otherwise. MIJA RIEDEL: But the principal and art teacher encouraged you to use it and then you'd cart the work over to. I noticed he was very accomplished and peaceful. Like I said, you never knew when you were going to catch him. NEIL WILLIAMS: And his writing, too, especially about her work, was very strong. NEIL WILLIAMS: I mean it's spectacular. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. And, were you working in clay at the high school? He did some time forlet me see, just dealing in weed or something. NEIL WILLIAMS: as a grounding or point of departure, of context. It's like, "Oh, my God, what about the next book?" NEIL WILLIAMS: I think it goes back to, is it a fuel for life or not? MIJA RIEDEL: How about the female figures? And the later ones, yeahthe animated ones, where she was taking molds and recreating the dog's face or a still life. WebHe was 69. I always thought, "Well, if somebody likes my work enough and wants toit's a nice fit, then I'll go with it." Neil is a thoroughly decent person who won't let you down and a creative without 'the attitude'' that so often comes with such talents. NEIL WILLIAMS: And I think her workdid that. I'm like "What?" She always was in it. Lovecraft as writers had landed here. [Laughs.] I understand now I didn't have much exposure to it, but even looking and taking art history courses at that time, it was unusual. And what a lovely turn of phrase to use when talking to them. 0000114923 00000 n But no, it was worth it. [Laughs. Absolutely, really grateful for that one. And like I said also, he was the first one to encourage Peter Voulkos to hand build when he was at Arts and Crafts in the '50s. NEIL WILLIAMS: And the other profound things he would say, like, "You know, all ofall of art and all of the way that [we] identify the world around us can be divided into two categories: straight line and curved line." *. MIJA RIEDEL: So when did you graduate high school? NEIL WILLIAMS: On to visuals. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. Two steps up, one step back, three steps sideways. I would certainly buy it as a reader but. NEIL WILLIAMS: Have you seen the photograph of her in the closet with all of the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of the little figurines and things that she had, NEIL WILLIAMS: she had hoarded? She was like one of us. MIJA RIEDEL: Would you like to say anything else? "How are you doing?" And, she walked everywhere until she learned how to drive, which was a horrifying thing to learn how to do for her. Gambling Help on 1800 858 858 or visit www.gamblinghelponline.org.au. NEIL WILLIAMS: And the redwood beams that were from the old timbers, which thank God they don't cut down anymore, they're protected. MIJA RIEDEL: What we're hoping for are your candid thoughts and memories of your experience. I thought his move to the Gold Coast was based on Unless you have a collector or someone who is a friend that says, lookI mean, like Stphane Janssen, what he did just floored me. %PDF-1.4 % Another jock to go the same way, Keith Marney, Cassidy Recovering After Surgery To Severed Fingers. Or, that's what I mean about. NEIL WILLIAMS: and the American imagery she grew up with. NEIL WILLIAMS: She replaced me and my ladder with Sam and all kinds of hydraulic equipment. You know, you lose a house, you lose a dear friend young, multiple friends young, unexpectedly. [Affirmative.] Net Worth in 2019. I just have a couple final questions in summary, and then any final thoughts you might have are more than welcome. But they were. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh my gosh, where did it come from? Other than Viola, of course. ), digital, wav; 101 Pages, Transcript. Quote from: InTheKnow on 2009-Sep-29, 01:46 PM, Quote from: Big Wheel on 2009-Sep-29, 02:17 PM, Quote from: OldLarsy on 2009-Sep-29, 02:37 PM, Quote from: el zoro on 2009-Sep-29, 03:17 PM, Quote from: dubbledee on 2009-Sep-28, 09:38 PM, Quote from: Big Wheel on 2009-Sep-29, 04:12 PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2009-Sep-29, 09:17 PM, Quote from: MagiC~* on 2009-Sep-29, 09:25 PM, Quote from: Mark on 2009-Dec-17, 08:10 PM, Quote from: Mark on 2009-Dec-17, 08:57 PM, Quote from: Max Manewer on 2009-Dec-17, 06:36 PM. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, I do a variety of other things. So, there's a technically, it has its demands, which can be very frustrating. But it wasshe was soamped up on what she was able to do. And when I started meeting them and seeing their collections, it was like, "Oh my goodness." And it was nice for her. You'll be redirected to related page soon Don't have an account? NEIL WILLIAMS: Just show it, just slow down and to enjoy the experience, consistent squeezing, andhaving some intent. She was already ill and she was working in a wheelchair. I can do that painting. MIJA RIEDEL: Oh, no. We can talk about that more. But Viola and Charles' relationship is, like I say, more of artists and sharing the same space, and in mutually enriching each other's lives. Create your account , it takes less than a minute, Dont let the game play you; gamble responsibly. And we became really good friendsbecause it wasn't just about working hard for her, it was about giving her a sounding board, and then we talked a lot about things outside of the arts, but, NEIL WILLIAMS: She saw that I wasI worked hard and I had a good discipline, and I got a good sense, I think, of what she was doing immediately. Salary in 2019. It's all very personal, it's all about the instructor. MIJA RIEDEL: You were working at the studio though, right? MIJA RIEDEL: What do you see as the similarities and the differences between your earliest work and your current work? And water-polished bisqued, thenwipe down again with a damp sponge, so there's no dust on it. You don't get too wrapped up in what the neighbors say or think. MIJA RIEDEL: Just female, or across the boards? He is creative, passionate about his work, quirky, self-motivated but above all, has a huge heart and is so pleasant to work with. He hasmany strengths, including creating big brand idea/concepts, crafting emotive brand stories that flow effortlessly and leading the development and ideation of advertising campaigns. MIJA RIEDEL: And so I'm trying toyour father was an engineer? @pacer142. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. Where you went to school and what that was like? A little more than 50 years ago, Elder Neil L. Andersen returned to his familys small dairy farm in Idaho after completing his mission to France. And I think it was alsoI also know that she had to delight in the fact that she was a little, short woman who was able to do that, and then splash all these great color field, you know, bring it to life with color, and still, at the time, outwork anybody around her. It could work with you or you could work against it. And she hadof course, she said "ideas are 10 years ahead of execution sometimes," and shewas jumping ahead, and then jumping back and, NEIL WILLIAMS: you know. [Laughs.] Andbut I was never motivated to doing thepursuing the wholeI don't know why. make sure the graphviz executables are on your systems' path. NEIL WILLIAMS: Perceive an objectyou perceive your environment, youas you become an adult, you conceive how you're going to react to or embrace that object. MIJA RIEDEL: Do you think of yourself as part of an American tradition? But then it was interesting because it became contagious. 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