I shoot exclusively reloads now, but 357 or 38spc both run excellent in it. Good to know. The .357 Magnum revolver cartridge has also gained considerable popularity as a combination rifle/pistol cartridge and lever action rifles for the .357 Magnum sell pretty well. Copyright 2023 Pew Pew Media, Inc. All rights reserved. I had a GP-100 and loved it. I know we all have our answers to this. Long live the mighty K frame. But man what a smooooth double action trigger. Best accuracy in real 357 loadings (much of todays 357 is anemic) is with 140+ grain bullets. So a bullet as small as .3540" would still be in spec. The blow back system is under a LOT of pressure. Currently they sell for 3-5k USD. But switched to a Model 25 45 acp to be able to use moon clips. If you dont own one, you should. And yet the Security-Six is missing from the list and the GP-100 is on it. Im still partial to a S&W 13-3 I have and it has a lot of miles on it. For the .257, that number drops down to 11, and only a few companies produce the cartridge. One also must consider whether today's .357 Magnum revolvers are as good as or worse than the giants upon whose shoulders they stand. Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:04 pm Location: southern Maine. OTOH, my remaining 357, a very low mileage 4" Python in Colt Royal Blue, makes me feel better. I have always thought the M1 carbine was a good idea at the time for its intended purpose. It should serve well as a deer rifle if the range is kept under 1. Its bare-bones design and easy-to-use mechanism make it perfect for beginners. Both triggers are comparable. Also own a 4.2 SP101 polished in and out and springs. And the Ruger GP100 7-shot with 4 barrel. Wish I still had mine. I would like to get ahold of a Smith & weightWesson 357 Magnum with 8 and 3/8 inch barrel. Hey AJ, you can find the author and bio linked at the bottom of every article. Post navigation. The King Cobra has a perfect balance of size, weight, and barrel length that results in a great shooter that isn't cumbersome to carry. The 2nd cylinder is for 9-mm. SW are fantastic guns, just never loved the short hammer pull, again, not what I was used to. Powerful. Numerous times people have offered to buy it. Have one in pristine condition and shoots like a dream. .30-06 Springfield vs. .270 Winchester Jerry R. Parris July 15, 2017 I experienced that in a S&W Model 10 when teaching a new police shooter on his very first day. Looking at published velocity numbers from much longer test barrels, we see that cutting a .30-30 barrel down to the legal-minimum 16.5 doesnt inflict a debilitating penalty to velocity or energy. One of the GP-100's claims to fame is its robustness. Who writes these articles. mitigates recoil and muzzle lift. I am a highly prejudicated in favor of larger caliber revolvers (smallest being a S&W .38 w/ 4.5" barrel) for what i call the three H's- Hunt, Hit, and Hurt- bringing down food, accuracy/proficiencey with the firearm (obviously needed for H1and H2) and puttin the hurt on evildoers up to no good (Home invasion, self and others personal safety etc) I've never had one jam, stovepipe, fail to feed etc My 357 of choice is a Ruger Blkhwk w/ 6.5 bbl I also own two 41 mags, a Ruger and a S&W ,both have 8 3/8" bbls- slight edge to the Smith for quicker reloading- 2 Colt 45 long 6" and 1 has a 4.5 AND just for shits n giggles 2 Heritage Ruffies a 6.5 and a 9 inch both with 22lr and 22 mag cylinders Not to worried bout the ol' CCL aspect I enjoy the article and the other replies to each to their own. This gives me point of aim accuracy from 50-100 yards. I think the M2 carbine was a great "submachinegun" since it's cartridge almost duplicates .357 magnum velocities from a rifle and therefore gives it a longer effective range than 9 mm Parabellum, .45 ACP or 7.62x25 submachine guns. The .357 Sig is perhaps the most common one not a "magnum". Its not just the .357 that varies point of impact by ammo. Thanks! .357s are more suitable for rifles than non magnum rounds since they use slower burning pistol powders than say 9mm. When I was there they were in the Delta. Thanks,Tad. The .38 Special case has plenty of volume. Whats next? I thought his.30 carbine to .357 mag. You Pew-Pew guys(and gals) are doing a great job. Answer (1 of 13): The 30-30 is more powerful and has a longer effective range, particularly with pointy polymer tipped bullets it can be a reliable 225-250 yard deer rifle. Therefore, the ball can fall out of the racetrack easily. I own the .357 with a 4.2" barrel and its very nice. This revolver is built on a large frame similar to the Smith and Wesson model 29. Love all of them. I haven't dealt with those yet though! Join Our Community. In modern military terms it would be considered an intermediate-caliber round, packing about the same punch as the 7.6239. Well I did some research and got the ballistics for commercial .357 Magnum ammunition fired from a rifle. While the .357 Magnum from a carbine does not quite match the .30-30 Win in velocity or energy, at 50 yards all of the loads mentioned in this article approach or exceed the 900 ft/lbs of energy . With 125-grain handloads, the revolver averaged an even 1300 feet per second and 469 pound-feet of energy, while the carbine delivered 1937 fps and 1041 lb-ft. Thats a 49 percent velocity increase and a 122 percent increase in energy from the same cartridge. Certainly some classic model revolvers mentioned. However, the .380 does a good job with shot placement. Tested. Currently, the 2020 Python is available in either 3-, 4.25-, or 6-inch configurations. The .357 Magnum revolver was then known as the Model 27, built on an N frame. Guess I just love that Wesson name. Taurus model 608 Eight shot .357 magnum 4 barrel stainless. I have a ..357 Ruger Blackhawk. i harvest a very old white nosed buck with a .357 and my 30-06 in kentucky during modern firearm season. However, I suspect the window has closed on that idea. It is such a pleasure to shoot I have no problems dumping 200 rounds through 'er during a range session. The 2.25-inch and 3-inch models offer synthetic black grips, front ramp sight, and fixed rear sight. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. I used the joules measurement in error. While I own a number of different pistols, I love my revolvers for their simplicity, reliability, and accuracy. The .357 Magnum Winchester PDX1 Defender JHP with 125-grain bullets costs $1.25 per round, while the same product ( 125 grain JHP) for .357 SIG cost $1.10 per round. I put the 2 and 1/2 inch barrel on, loaded with .357 and with no hearing protection, pulled the trigger. Trigger was good out of the box, after about 5,000 rounds it was outstanding! Effective. I bought a Galco D.A.O. The .357 has a longer case than 10mm, but 10mm Auto has a larger diameter. The 7.6239 uses a bullet diameter of .311, which can also be used in .303 British and 7.62x54R, but not in any .30-06, .308 Win, or 300 BLK. passed on a 60s 94 .30-30 for 150; felt it was too femwee a round at the time (i was stupid as a youngster as well). I may earn a small part of the sale from links to any products or services on this site. For target practice, I still recommend using .38 Special ammo to save money. I have the 3" barrel and the DASA model. You feature the Manurhin as a high-end revolver and omit the Korth/Night Hawk in your discussion-review of .357's. *.30 Remington has entered the chat* It is black and I put a optic on it but I really want the nebula color because it's different. i pair a s.bhawk with a 16 94ae in .44mag. There Price puts them out of reach for many people. A full power 158gr. The combination of a sealed breech and long barrel really brings the efficient little cartridge to life, and it can safely be loaded up to 30-30 . It's my all time favorite gun. I have 3 Dan Wessons in.22, .357, and .44 Magnum. The 350 legend is actually a 9mm not the same as a 357. It become at first added in 1906, and was at the start used inside the United States Army. It's soft shooting even with 357 magnum rounds. The overall length of the 30-30 ammo is 2.55," and the case capacity is 45 grains. Easy to conceal carry, highly accurate and heavy enough to handle full power loads. My daughter liked it and now she is downright deadly with it. The only problem with it was the grip was too small. Re: 357 vs 44 mag vs 44-40 popularity in lever guns . faster than the .357 SIG in barrels of the same length. In the past 6 months I purchased a 1972 Smith and Wesson 27-2, a 1968 Colt Trooper (Python style action), and a 1965 Colt Python. There is one correction you might care to make in the interest of accurate history, though. 357 Magnum . Minimum wear. The great stopping power myth is that there is a "best." But it can be argued that the gun the GP-100 was derived from, the Security-Six, was a vastly superior gun. When I hear .357 Magnum, I immediately think, "COLT PYTHON"!!! But it's in my safe and I carry a semi auto due to available firepower with a .357 Sig - in a 226 - can't beat the ballistics Really great article. And the 2&1/2 barrel version is considered by myself and many knowledgeable handguners to be the best all round snub nose .357 ever. anything extra and your Unique is a fast-burning powder; this light load was nearly consumed in the 4 revolver barrel so there was only a modest gain from the carbine. .300 PRC vs. .300 Win. The .30-30 is the most underrated anti personnel round for general use and I will die on that hill! both good weapons.I have a 686 with a 4 barrels.I have had it close to 30 years,and still love it.Even today when I unlimber it at the range with full power a,MMO the range ,someone is bound to come up,and say Great article. umm your going to deep with all that. That's with 357 mag ammo. Ruger also offers a 4.2-inch model that sports a fiber optic front sight and adjustable rear sight. While the .357 Mag. This would place it in the middle of the pack for .30-30 ballistics, at least within 100 yards, at a cost about equal to premium .30-30 ammo. We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. NIce article, and nice to see that my "low budget" They are in similar The best current production available, especially the 5 inch 686 performance 7 shot revolver. And both are used for medium to large game. When we sent the gun to S&W for examination, detonation was their determination, likely due to a light handload. Chiappa the new 357mag revolver with the 3' is easier to carry than the 4 inch but gives you better control than the 2 inch, so dont knock it till you try it. The .357s handgun ballistics are impressive indeed, but how much more impressive does it get from an extra fourteen inches of barrel? Kinber revolvers from now on for me. Velocity is what makes the bullet expand. LMFAO! Min Expansion: 0.587. Hornady claims that they make 2400 fps from a 24 test barrel, and I was pleasantly surprised that the Trappers 16 barrel (literally one-third shorter) only paid a small 11.25 percent velocity penalty. Weve built dozens of ARs and well cover all the best AR-15 upgrades such as handguards, triggers, BCGs, gas blocks, and more. A great all-around handgun cartridge, but a poor choice for deer rifles, since the much more capable .30-30 can be had in rifles similar to those chambered for the .357 Mag. -The recoil of the 45 Colt is much less than that of the .357 Magnum, making it more comfortable to . I had heard at one point that the Python's have the most moving parts of any revolver on the market which is one reason for their feel. The one thing that I did notice was about 99% of the competitors used S&W revolvers, could be how easily it was to make a very nice trigger pull or because of the way the cylinder was unlocked for faster reloads. The .30-30 was once the standard North American big-game hunting cartridge. I was born decades too late. 06-30-2009 @ 12:56 AM Location Houston Texas Posts 189 Local Date 01-15-2023 Local Time 05:16 AM.30 Carbine vs .357 Magnum There have been discussions in the past about the comparison between the .357 Magnum and the .30 Carbine cartridges. It is hardy and I expect its useful life to outlive mine if cared for but as far as that goes it does need thorough cleaning after a range session especially (again) around the ejector wall, grime can build up there and cause ejection problems (this contributed also to the more lasting problem I mentioned I believe). .357 is a revolver cartridge. Moreover, you also need to be careful when the ball goes through the tunnel. I still regularly take it to the range and it is very accurate and can handle a heavy load with no problem. Type your new password and hit button below to confirm it. An officer traded it in and I was fortunate enough to see it before anyone else did. I keep my .30-30 loaded with Federal 125gr. 25m range. The grips, barrel length, weight, and good DA/SA trigger make this revolver very balanced and pleasant to shoot without being unwieldy. I also really enjoy my 94 Trapper in 45 Long Colt. However, I recently found myself looking at a website about rifles. He is focused on helping others protect themselves and their loved ones, and getting the most out of their time at the range. One caveat: my .357 carbine is nicely accurate, but the point of impact varies greatly depending on the ammunition being fired. Only one is .357 Magnum. What are your favorite models? 158-grain lead SWC handloads, filled with 5.7 grains of Unique. The bullets used in 38 SP and 357 Mag are externally the same dimensions. Revolvers. Those Remington 125gr. Try one! My friend retired as a Lt. 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